Guys, want to get the comments and feedback on the idea of Hillary running as a 3rd party/independent candidate for white House if she doesn't get the democratic nomination.

This idea always intrigued me and now they are polling for it and recent rasmussen poll showing 29% of the democrats wants her to run as an independent.

With a right VP candidate, she might be able to pull it off.

Want to hear your thoughts and for one I would support and I would vote for her as an independent candidate

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_conte nt/politics/election_20082/2008_presiden tial_election/38_of_democrats_want_clint on_to_drop_out
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House.

Hillary clinton to appear on Oreilly factor tomorrow, Wednesday night.

Man, she is tough. You go girl

I am not a big fan of Fox, but Fox is more fair and balanced than MSNBC in covering Clinton.

Oreilly is 100% better than Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews.

Interesting to watch

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/29/a-new-factor/

Guys,
Great article.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article s/2008/04/a_living_lie.html

A Living Lie
By Thomas Sowell

An e-mail from a reader said that, while Hillary Clinton tells lies, Barack Obama is himself a lie. That is becoming painfully apparent with each new revelation of how drastically his carefully crafted image this election year contrasts with what he has actually been saying and doing for many years.

Senator Obama's election year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate. Voting records analyzed by the National Journal show him to be the farthest left of anyone in the Senate. Nor has he sponsored any significant bipartisan legislation -- nor any other significant legislation, for that matter.

Senator Obama is all talk -- glib talk, exciting talk, confident talk, but still just talk.

Some of his recent talk in San Francisco has stirred up controversy because it revealed yet another blatant contradiction between Barack Obama's public image and his reality.

Speaking privately to supporters in heavily left-liberal San Francisco, Obama let down his hair and described working class people in Pennsylvania as so "bitter" that they "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."

Like so much that Obama has said and done over the years, this is standard stuff on the far left, where guns and religion are regarded as signs of psychological dysfunction -- and where opinions different from those of the left are ascribed to emotions ("bitter" in this case), rather than to arguments that need to be answered.

Like so many others on the left, Obama rejects "stereotypes" when they are stereotypes he doesn't like but blithely throws around his own stereotypes about "a typical white person" or "bitter" gun-toting, religious and racist working class people.

In politics, the clearer a statement is, the more certain it is to be followed by a "clarification," when people react adversely to what was plainly said.

Obama and his supporters were still busy "clarifying" Jeremiah Wright's very plain statements when it suddenly became necessary to "clarify" Senator Obama's own statements in San Francisco.

People who have been cheering whistle-blowers for years have suddenly denounced the person who blew the whistle on what Obama said in private that is so contradictory to what he has been saying in public.

However inconsistent Obama's words, his behavior has been remarkably consistent over the years. He has sought out and joined with the radical, anti-Western left, whether Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers of the terrorist Weatherman underground or pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli Rashid Khalidi.

Obama is also part of a long tradition on the left of being for the working class in the abstract, or as people potentially useful for the purposes of the left, but having disdain or contempt for them as human beings.

Karl Marx said, "The working class is revolutionary or it is nothing." In other words, they mattered only in so far as they were willing to carry out the Marxist agenda.

Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw included the working class among the "detestable" people who "have no right to live." He added: "I should despair if I did not know that they will all die presently, and that there is no need on earth why they should be replaced by people like themselves."

Similar statements on the left go back as far as Rousseau in the 18th century and come forward into our own times.

It is understandable that young people are so strongly attracted to Obama. Youth is another name for inexperience -- and experience is what is most needed when dealing with skillful and charismatic demagogues.

Those of us old enough to have seen the type again and again over the years can no longer find them exciting. Instead, they are as tedious as they are dangerous.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article s/2008/04/a_living_lie.html

Guys, I was laughing my ass off this evening after Clintons showed their tax returns. Again it shows Obama camp and also media are damn rookies and need to learn from Clintons. How to set the expectations and how to win the elections.

Any one in the right mind expected to find any thing in the tax returns? Please. If you expected like Obama and Media, you guys are fools and are rookies.

Don't you guys think that Clintons know they need to make the tax returns public, once Hillary starts running for president. And every body knows she will run after she won the NY senate seat.

They made a lot of money. Good for that. This is America and gave more than 10% in charity and paid higher tax rate than Bush and Cheney. Note those two points again.

Donated more than 10%in charity:
Obama donated 1% in charity and 6% last year, after he announced running for president.

Higher tax rate: They paid more than $31m in taxes. Higher rate and higher rate than Bush and Cheney. They did not try to hide the taxes.

Look at the media reaction:

They are fooled and eating crow.

ABC:
Lead report on Clintons' tax returns noted they donated large sums to charity and paid taxes at a higher rate than Bush or Cheney;

CBS:
Report on tax returns called Clintons' post-presidential income "wildly lucrative," but said charity and tax figures do not give ammunition to critics.

Obama camp: Dumb founded and fooled again.

Guys, thats why they Politics is a big boys game,(here big girl's)  not for rookies.
Clintons know how to play the game. They are the only that can play with Republicans and beat them.

Thats why, Bill Clinton is the only democratic candidate that won the presidency in last 28 years and if we dont nominate Hillary this time, for last 32 years.

Damn rookies.

2000 - 2007 TAX RETURN SUMMARY
HILLARY & BILL CLINTON

TAXES PAID: $33,783,507

The Clintons paid $33,783,507 in federal taxes - 31% of their adjusted gross income. According to the most recent data available from the IRS, in 2005 taxpayers earning $10,000,000 or more paid on average 20.8% of their adjusted gross income in taxes.

CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS: $10,256,741

The Clintons donated $10,256,741 to charity - 9.5% of their adjusted gross income. According to the most recent data available from the IRS, in 2005 taxpayers earning $10,000,000 or more contributed 3.1% of their adjusted gross income in cash contributions to charity. Information about the Clinton Family Foundation, including a list of charities to which the Clintons contributed through the Foundation, is available online in the Foundation's publicly available tax returns (www.foundationcenter.org).

AFTER TAX EARNINGS: $57,157,297

CUMULATIVE TOTAL(GROSS) INCOME: $109,175,175

Including, among other items:
Senator Clinton's Senate Salary: $1,051,606
President Clinton's Presidential Pension: $1,217,250
Senator Clinton's Book Income: $10,457,083
President Clinton's Book Income: $29,580,525
President Clinton's Speech Income: $51,855,599

SENATOR CLINTON'S BOOK INCOME: $10,457,083
Senator Clinton's book income is comprised of earnings for Living History ($10,267,895), including an $8,000,000 advance, and It Takes a Village ($189,188). The earnings for It Takes a Village were donated to charity. Since the release of It Takes a Village in 1996, Senator Clinton has donated over $1,100,000 to charity.

PRESIDENT CLINTON'S BOOK INCOME: $29,580,525
President Clinton's book income is comprised of earnings for My Life ($23,280,525), including a $15,000,000 advance, and Giving ($6,300,000). The President donated $1,000,000 of his income from Giving in 2007 to charity.

PRESIDENT CLINTON'S SPEECH INCOME: $51,855,599

NOTE: The figures in this summary include 2007 estimates.

Hillary fans, if you want hillary to be a nominee or continue the campaighn, step up now and contribute. IF not, funds might force her out, not Obama or any senator calling her to drop out.  

To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails.

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/86549 4,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

Michael Sneed

*    Translation: "It won't necessarily be politics which may force her out of the race," said a top Dem source. "There is no hanky panky going on, but Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive . . . and word is she may not be able to climb out of the money hole."

*    The buckshot: "I think it's safe to say Hillary's not going to dip into her pocket again," the source added. "And if her employees start taking pay cuts while chasing the dream . . . it's usually the beginning of the body becoming totally cold."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/86549 4,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article

Contribute:

http://hillaryclinton.com/

3 million dollars by March 31st campaign. Need cash

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/26/b-cli nton-on-democratic-heat-saddle-up/

Bill Clinton, Greatest President and greatest politican of our life time. Only democrat to win a white house for democrats in last 28 years and if we dont nominate Hillary this year, for last 32 years.

This is what it takes to win a general election. People like fighters.

B. Clinton on Democratic Heat: "Saddle Up"Wednesday, March 26th,

Says at Parkersburg, West Virginia event that he doesn't see an end to Clinton-Obama fighting anytime soon, doesn't think aides, surrogates who make attacks should be forced to resign.

"If a politician doesn't wanna get beat up, he shouldn't run for office. If a football player doesn't want to get tackled or want the risk of an a occasional clip he shouldn't put the pads on."

"All these guys that say bad things about any other campaign, they say, `Should they resign?' My answer is no; they're repeating party line. They oughta stay right where they are. Let's just saddle up and have an argument. What's the matter with that? That's what America's about, right?"

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/26/b-cli nton-on-democratic-heat-saddle-up/

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/news/cityregion/s_558930.html

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a wide-ranging interview today with Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporters and editors, said she would have left her church if her pastor made the sort of inflammatory remarks Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor made.
"He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."

Obama's lead in national polls has slipped since clips of the retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright began being played on national news programs. The uproar prompted Obama to give a wide-ranging speech on race in America a week ago. The Clinton campaign has refrained from getting involved in the controversy, but Clinton herself, responding to a question, denounced what she said was "hate speech."

"You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that," Clinton said. "I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbur ghtrib/news/cityregion/s_558930.html